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A while ago I posted a guest blog from Julian’s first male dance teacher, Anthony Foster (see bio below). Since then, he and I have been working together to post a second blog, this time about his experience with Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance (SYTYCD). Yes, the first season of the show, Anthony made a brief appearance. We almost missed him, in fact…Despite the fact that he “quit” the show, he’s gone on to show great determination and tenacity when it comes to making a success of himself as a dancer.

I wasn’t sure Anthony would want to discuss this topic, but, good educator that he is, he has offered not only to tell his SYTYCD story—or at least some of it, but also to teach our dancin’ boys what he knows about choosing (or not choosing) to compete in a nationally televised dance show.

I know Julian watches SYTYCD religiously and dreams of being on the show. Most young dancers think it’s the be all and end all to getting “discovered” as a dancer.  For many dancers, it seems to be a really great experience, and some have gone on to amazing careers because of the exposure they received on national TV. For others, however, the show – and others like it – might not be the right choice for any number of reasons. Here’s what Anthony has to say about his experience and about what boys should think about before deciding to audition for a national TV dance competition:

My SYTYCD Experience
and
Tips on Deciding If a TV Dance Show is Right for You

By Anthony Foster

It’s been quite a few years since my participation in the first season of SYTYCD, but I am still asked about my experiences with the show.  That said, this is a subject I do not talk about much.  After many, long-winded conversations about this and that and how it all works, I’ve come to the simple conclusion that the show simply wasn’t for me.  Yep, for me it was just another dance competition – that’s all.

It’s funny how it all came to pass.  My sister, who at the time was go-go dancing at a Chicago nightclub called Crobar, called me one day to tell me that some dance show was auditioning club dancers for a major network show and that I absolutely had to be there.  “Sure why not? What time?” was my response.

I had no idea what I was getting into… I just wanted to go and get my boogie on that night.  I stepped into the club, had a drink or two and started to “do my thing”—and I was soon approached by the producers, who asked me to perform on camera.  That was my preliminary audition.

Little did I know television and radio advertisements had caused people to line up all the way down State Street to audition at the Chicago Theater.   After a little discussion, I was asked to a callback audition, which was the final round for Chicago. I had to come prepared with a 90 second routine.  “Pssshhhh,” I thought.  I picked a song, trimmed it down, listened to it in the car on the way, and improvised the 90 seconds.  Still, I had no idea what this whole thing was about.

They actually took me.  From the club, to the stage and then to a quick choreography session (they wanted to know that we could learn steps), it wasn’t long before I was on a first class flight to Los Angeles for the official first week of taping.  Transport got me to the studio an hour after rehearsal had begun (Gotta love the LA freeways…), so I had tons of choreography to get caught up on when I arrived.

During a slow moment, a dancer approached me and said, “Do you need some help?”  Seeing that there was about a minute of choreography already taught, I happily accepted.  He spent a lot of his own free time making sure I had the steps. That dancer was Blake McGrath, a really nice guy—though I hear he was made out to be the antagonist of the show that year.  At least I can say he was nice to me.

Hours later on that first day I started thinking, “What the hell am I doing here?”

Some short, side conversations with the other dancers in my group helped me to understand what the full package consisted of: The winner receives an apartment in NYC for one year along with a little chunk of money.  What was a Chicago-land home owner going to do with an apartment in New York while balancing two corporate entities?  At this particular time in my life, I was quite diligently trying to get my dance company off the ground and was extremely focused on my work in the Midwest.  Staying in LA represented a risk I was not willing to take—especially when just one unfavorable review could’ve been the ripple in the pond that would affect both my businesses.  Personally, I felt as if I had already made my place as an artist and did not need a panel of judges nor Americas votes to dictate otherwise.

By lunch, I had already committed to the idea of returning home immediately, though I completed the day with 100 percent focus and intention and danced full-out every time Dan Karaty pressed the play button.  Our session came to an end, and I found a producer with whom to share my thoughts about returning home.  They were not at all happy about it and had me repeat everything on camera, and of course, with Nigel (which, I’m sure everyone saw right on national TV later).

Based on the contract agreements we sign, participants are not allowed to speak of a few things, but I can say that had my lawyer not been involved, I’m sure they would’ve gone much farther than calling me “The Quitter” that first season.  My time and that title on SYTYCD is in my past now, and I really never wonder anymore what would have happened had I stayed.

SYTYCD does offer great exposure for those who seek it, but I must repeat myself when I say it simply wasn’t for me. The question remains, is it for you (or for your son)? Many people speculate about what constitutes ‘healthy competition’ and how dancers should go about choosing events, auditions and/or television shows in which to participate.  Here are a few things to think about as you make your decision.

In many cases, contestants on shows like SYTYCD are products of the competition environment and are very familiar with their surroundings.  What I mean by this is that many of the dancers’ home studios had/have a performance team, competition group or in-house company.  They train diligently and undertake a rigorous rehearsal schedule in order to “compete” (not solely for the sake of winning) with similar teams and schools on the local and national level.  Some enjoy the experience and leave hungry for more as they grow older… and others move onward.  Remember, however, that every audition is a competition within itself.

Speaking of SYTYCD alone, there are a few things to ask yourself if you are thinking about entering into a competition on this level:

  • What are your goals?
  • What do you plan to gain from the experience?
  • Are you physically, emotionally and mentally prepared for what can (and most likely will) happen throughout the process?
  • Are you comfortable in front of a camera?
  • Can you handle harsh criticism?
  • What do you plan to do AFTER the show?

For so many dancers, their be-all-end-all hopes are just to be on and/or win these dance competition television shows.  But then what?

Being a SYTYCD competitor offers many great opportunities, such as nationally televised exposure, the opportunity to work with some of America’s finest choreographers and to broaden your social and professional network for (hopefully) future work in the industry.  And, of course, with anything sweet… comes a sour as well.  Not too many folks know what happens “behind the scenes.”

With reality television, what you see isn’t always what you get.  Of course, the dancing is what it is, but folks sometimes overlook the fact that a ton of editing takes place.  In many cases, what one sees or hears (outside of the dance performances, of course) are taken out of context and/or chronological order.  As with any reality television type of show, the “characters” can be manufactured—all of which, the dancers agree upon prior to their acceptance to the show in the form of a heavily worded and demanding contractual agreement. Sadly, many dancers entering into the show are so excited that they sign on without ever reading this document.

Another thing to consider is the amount of time/work/money you sacrifice.  Yes, the competitors who are selected for the show(s) become paid screen actors.  Rates may vary and could possibly be less than you’re making at your current job.  Of course, they could be higher, too.

Is it the right choice for you?  That’s a decision you’ll have to make on your own, young man.  Just remember there are more opportunities out there than one television show.  Taking the step from studio-training to professional has many paths.  These paths have multiple, little branches, too!  Consider auditioning for an agency or a touring show.  Most young dancers don’t think much about this, but booking a performance contract (like Wicked, Billy Elliott, Chicago, etc.) can provide a dancer with full health benefits and a substantial pay scale.

You have options!  Remember, it’s not about what will make you happy “right now,” but what will keep you healthy, sane and employed in the future.

Whatever you decide, keep dancin’!

Anthony Foster
Choreographer/Dancer/Educator

A true product of Chicago-land’s finest educators, choreographers and theaters, Anthony Foster’s all-encompassing and diverse training background includes authentic tutelage in the forms of classical ballet and classical jazz under direct descendants of George Balanchine and Gus Giordano.  Supplemented by break dance and gymnastics in his early years, Anthony quickly made the transition from street to stage and a few notable small-screen appearances, such as season 1 of Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance and music videos for the artists Echo & Groove Jam.  His stage credits include leads in the ballets, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Les Patineurs and The Last Waltz as well as performances with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.  Anthony continues to explore movement and creative expression as artistic director of his dance company, Soleunique, and has recently accepted the role of managing director of Moves Dance Studios’ pre-professional program.  When not at his home base, Anthony is traveling the U.S. as a guest instructor and choreographer for professional companies, studios, dance conferences and conventions.

Things are gearing up again. Julian has been practicing an old routine of his from a few years ago called “Hats” for solo studio performance on Thursday. We didn’t realize that he could actually perform in this event, so he didn’t prepare a solo. (We’ll know for next year.) So, he pulled out his very-successful piece, choreographed by ReMinD, otherwise known as Aristan Rinpoyla. When Julian competed this number, he won lots of awards for the unique choreography which is a bit like the movie “Mask;” each time he puts on a new hat, he dances a different type of hip hop.

While those who make the decisions about who performs what at the studio weren’t too keen on Julian doing a hip hop routine, they actually found the choreography “entertaining,” and allowed it into the show. Another point for ReMinD!  Julian has since been trying to get the piece back up to performance level. I’m not sure it will be quite there with just 2 weeks of sporadic rehearsals, but it will be okay.

Tomorrow, he begins rehearsals for Copellia with Los Gatos Ballet. Since tech rehearsals for this productin were in close conflict with Teen Dance Company’s concert tech week, we were afraid he wouldn’t get to do the performance. However, he’s been allowed to do it with the caveat that if his school work starts affecting attendance at TDC, he has to drop out of Copellia.

His grades are getting a bit better, I’m happy to say, and he’s only missed one assignment in 3 weeks or so. However, his honors English grade is in the basement (and that’s putting it really nicely). We’re hoping he brings it up so he doesn’t have to attend summer school. If that happens, he can kiss his ABT summer intensive scholarship and experience goodbye. That would be a shame.

This weekend he is off to The Pulse to dance with the choreographers of So You Think You Can Dance. He’s excited about that. Although he does get to work with Mandy Moore occasionally, and she isn’t with The Pulse, he hasn’t worked with Tyce Diorio, Mia Michaels, Shane Sparks, Brian Friedman, or Wade Robson before.

I’m hoping to get to the convention to watch as well, since I’d like to see these people operate myself. However, my daughter has a synchronized swimming meet on Sunday…Can’t ever be on a different day, can it?…so I’m going to miss a few of these choreographers in action. I’m sure Julian will have a blast, though.

This past weekend Julian and the rest of the Teen Dance Company dancers went to the Nuvo dance convention. Julian had a blast hanging with his buddies from TDC and seeing some old friends from other studios. He also saw some friends from school or from the Nutcracker performance he was in last December.  Additionally, he got to observe and talk with two other male dancer he has met previously

The TDC dancers had recently had an hour-long class involving instruction on how to work with choreographers. The gist of the class, according to what Julian told me, was to “copy” the movements and not to change the movements to make them “your own” unless told to do so by the instructor. Julian noticed another male dancer doing what he deemed “just the opposite” — in his eyes — and making it his own to a great extent. And this boy was rewarded by being put on stage. He was upset. And maybe Julianwas just jealous…who’s to know. Or maybe he was just confused given that he was told to do something, which received no recognition, while someone else did the opposite and did receive recognition.

Anyway, the kids had a blast at the convention, and they were given the opportunity to compete simply for the sake of “performing” and giving the company a bit of publicity. That turned out quite well, as they came in first and got high honors in every category in which they competed. Of course, the kids were thrilled. (Who doesn’t like to be a winner, even if it’s not supposed to be about competing and winning.)

However, in one of the numbers Julian was set down a bit harder then usual after a lift and turned his ankle a bit. Between that and his two tap numbers, he has a sore ankle ankle and foot today, so he stayed home from dance to rest it. He has rehearsals gearing up at the end of the week for their spring concert; he wants to be in tip top shape for that.

He got to take class with Travis Wall, an idol of his from So You Think You Can Dance. He loved his choreography and has wanted to dance like him since he saw him on television.

It’s been a year since Julian attended a convention. He has two more to go…

Oh, my! I seem to have created quite a stir with my last post. I’ve had an influx of readers since I speculated on who might be the one leaving Billy Elliot, the Musical, which recently opened on Broadway.  I admitted I was getting my information from Movmnt Magazine, and in the comments to my last post I’ve even (upon request) quoted the magazine saying that “rumors” were floating around Broadway that one of the boys would soon be let go. However, an anonymous source that commented on that post has said that all the boys are assured six months of work and that Kiril isn’t leaving. I’m not sure who this source is (that’s why he/she is anonymous, obviously), so I also don’t know where this information comes from or how accurate it is. So, if someone wants to step forward with real information and credentials (or something) to back up  that information, obviously the readers of this blog would love to hear what he or she has to say.

On a totally different topic, I finally managed to get a hold of Nick Lazzarini, the winner of the first season of Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance. (Gotta love Facebook…)  And he happened to be home for Christmas and said he’d be happy to grant me a face-to-face interview for my book on how to mentor boys who want to become professional dancers. So, I met with him today. (Interestingly, Julian has danced in some of the same studios as did Nick — Dance Attack and Studio 10. Nick also danced with Mark Foehringer while he was still teaching and directing at Western Ballet in Mountain View, and Mark now teaches Julian ballet at TDC.)

What a lovely man! He was so forthcoming and pleasant and offered nice stories and tips for the boys who might want to follow in his footsteps. Actually, he encouraged boys not to follow in anyone else’s footsteps but rather to find their own path and take their own journey in the dance world.

On the subject of grades and school, since that’s been a hot topic here lately, I’ll mention that Nick was working and performing and was primarily home schooled for the first year of high school. He then chose to continue this track and get his GED, because it relieved the pressure that school placed upon him. This also gave him the freedom to focus on dance and to go to LA and NY for dance classes and such. He actually graduated at the age of 16.

I told him Julian liked the social aspect of school and didn’t want to give that up despite his dislike of studying and homework, and he reiterated what almost everyone I’ve interviewed to date has said: His best friends all came from the dance world and continue to be from the dance world.

He did say that he was a bit sorry he didn’t go on to study dance at the conservatory level but rather began working right away. Of course, conservatories don’t offer academics…but they do offer another path for those boys who aren’t enamored with school.

Julian’s high school does offer an alternative track where you can come in on Monday and get all your work for the week and then hand it in on Friday. Julian doesn’t want to do this. He likes being with the other kids. And I’m not going to home school him, that’s for sure. I’m not cut out for that job. (I dont’ have the patience – or the knowledge! So, I guess he’ll have to deal with the pressures of midterms and finals and tests in general unless he gets too fed up – or gets offered a great part – and has to make another choice. That said, for those boys who don’t want to handle the pressures of school and are satisfied with the social time the get at the dance studio, opting for an alternative route of study in high school or middle school can be a saving grace, I’m told. Nick wouldn’t have done it any other way. The “Billys” are all tutored and I bet many of them have been home schooled before as well (I’m guessing), as have many or most child actors and actresses.

Nick told me so much more, but I have to keep some things for the book, which I will hopefully be proposing to an agent in the New Year.

Boys who have, like my son, suffered time off of dance while they recuperated from dance-related injuries, should know they are not alone. Even the best dancers get injured, and they, too, hate sitting one the side while everyone else jumps and turns and pirouettes across the floor.

Sometimes it helps to hear what someone you respect has to say about the obstacles you face. That’s the premise of the book I’m writing about mentoring boys who want to become professional dancers. So, here are a few words from swing dancing champion Benji Schwimmer, the 2007 winner of So You Think You Can Dance, who told me during a two-hour interview that dancers get lots of injuries along the way to stardom and that these always make them feel depressed and helpless. Despite this fact, there are ways to move through these negative feelings and come out of an injury better than ever.

If your son is injured or has been, share what Benji has to say:

“Probably one of the most difficult times in my life was right after I had won
the United States Swing Dance Championships with my cousin, Heidi (Groskreutz)…I was teaching a class at a college, and I ripped my knee into shreds. I had all these bookings and shows planned throughout the year that I had to cancel. I was depressed beyond recognition. I thought, ‘Wow, I didn’t realize how fragile the human body is until that moment and how scary it is to be injured.’

That was a tough time. Eventually I had a surgery and had to get back on my feet and reclaim my swing title the next year. But I was out for seven and a half months, and that was definitely a very trying time in my life. I had to get back into shape and do therapy, but I came back like a bat out of hell.”

And you know what? He not only came back he reclaimed his swim champion title as well.

I reminded my son of this story when he was feeling upset up the recital and ballet rehearsals he was missing because of his hurt foot. He was concerned that he might be told my his instructors that he couldn’t perform. I told him that he simply needed to continue stretching and strengthening as much as he could until he could get out on the dance floor again and that he needed to continue going to class and marking the choreography to ensure that he would know the dance when it came time to actually perform it. And I told him he would have to work hard when he could actually dance again to get up to speed and totally in shape. If he did these things, surely he would be on stage with the other dancers when the curtain went up for both events.

It all comes down to how badly these young male dancers want that goal, how hard they are willing to work. (Unfortunately, often their age stops them from working hard enough, which deters them in many ways. But that’s the subject of another post.) If like, Benji, they will do what it takes to get themselves back onto the dance floor in tip top shape, they too can “win” whatever prize they desire. It helps, however, to know that someone understands their frustration.

The director of the ballet school, Lise LaCour, has offered to work with Julian herself, or to have Julian’s male instructor, Peter Brandenhoff, give Julian private lessons (for free) when he returns to dancing to help him get in shape. That will also boost his confidence, improve his mood and help him get back up to speed. I had already suggested paying for a few private lessons at Studio 10 with Keith Banks to get him ready for the recital (even though those lessons are very expensive).

As a parent, we have to do what we have to do to help these boys. They seem so rough and tough, yet they are really very fragile and sensitive.

I’ll keep you posted. One more week and then hopefully the boot comes off.